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Wiper wiring (RAM)

Started by JamesB, Apr 19, 2023, 11:14 AM

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JamesB

Quote from: JON1D on Apr 28, 2023, 05:46 PMWith a relay system you can easily add in a delay switch position.

Yes, I had thought that although I really don't plan to be using it in the wet, but as you say that would be a relatively easy addition.

JON1D


With a relay system you can easily add in a delay switch position.
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JamesB

Quote from: aaronjb on Apr 27, 2023, 10:14 AMI think I ended up with more relays than you, so perhaps you created a better system! :) I haven't found the notebook containing the diagrams I drew up .. which will bite me on the arse if I ever need to fix anything!  ;D

I did have some help from a chap who is a pro, he added the diode and changed a couple of things but I was on the right track to start with just not quite there!  Also happy to let you have the diagram if you want it but if yours is working even with more relays, I would leave well alone!

JamesB

Quote from: KevinW on Apr 26, 2023, 11:10 PMThis would make a nice little article for ST mag.

Yes, I will do something, may help others in the same boat.

aaronjb

Quote from: JamesB on Apr 26, 2023, 02:22 PMTwo switching relays and a diode later, wipers work as they should do.  The one plus point is that now there is only relay switching current going through the wiper switch.

I think I ended up with more relays than you, so perhaps you created a better system! :) I haven't found the notebook containing the diagrams I drew up .. which will bite me on the arse if I ever need to fix anything!  ;D
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KevinW

Quote from: JamesB on Apr 26, 2023, 10:05 PMDavid,  no problem,  pm me an email address and I will send you the wiring diagram. Happy to explain anything else that you might be unclear about as well. I will try to post the diagram up here if I can as well in case it helps others but that might be a while yet.
This would make a nice little article for ST mag.
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JamesB

Quote from: Beachy on Apr 26, 2023, 08:23 PMI have the same problem with my Dax. I have the same rotary switch and the park function is meant to ground out the motor. But this kept blowing the fuse. So I just wired it up without the park function. I would be interested to know how you achieved the park function including wiring diagrams and what relays you used.

David.
David,  no problem,  pm me an email address and I will send you the wiring diagram. Happy to explain anything else that you might be unclear about as well. I will try to post the diagram up here if I can as well in case it helps others but that might be a while yet.

Beachy

I have the same problem with my Dax. I have the same rotary switch and the park function is meant to ground out the motor. But this kept blowing the fuse. So I just wired it up without the park function. I would be interested to know how you achieved the park function including wiring diagrams and what relays you used.

David.
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KevinW

Quote from: JamesB on Apr 26, 2023, 02:22 PMTwo switching relays and a diode later, wipers work as they should do.  The one plus point is that now there is only relay switching current going through the wiper switch.

Well done, the BL Mini wiper wiring has defeated many lesser men!
Crendon 427 S/C    Ford FE428 & Toploader

JamesB

Two switching relays and a diode later, wipers work as they should do.  The one plus point is that now there is only relay switching current going through the wiper switch.

JamesB

Quote from: aaronjb on Apr 21, 2023, 05:06 PMRelays.. you'll need relays. I'll see if I can find the wiring diagram I drew up - I have the same setup (probably the same rotary switch!)

Several fuses valiantly gave their lives to create said diagram  ;D
Guys,  I think I have worked it out, no time now but I'll give it a try next week.  Aaron, if you do find your drawing I would still be grateful to check what I have done.

JamesB

Kev, if you have a connection list for all positions of the switch then I would very much like to see it.

Ta

KevinW

Quote from: JamesB on Apr 21, 2023, 05:58 PMKevin, that looks like the switch I have, where does it give the contacts closed or open in the different positions?  I cant find that, if its the same one I have then it definitely does not have closed contacts in the off position.
Its different from the very similar looking Land Rover item. I don't think there is a table on this, I just worked it out. I might have it written down somewhere in my old build notes, do you want me to have a look?
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JamesB

Kevin, that looks like the switch I have, where does it give the contacts closed or open in the different positions?  I cant find that, if its the same one I have then it definitely does not have closed contacts in the off position.

KevinW

#14
A new switch might be your easiest way forward
I used this that also had the screen wash option that I didn't use...it operates 2 speeds and park.
https://www.holden.co.uk/p/triumph-tr6-switch-1

This might be useful:
http://www.the289register.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4847&sid=d7c4c6d83e02b991638fcfe3dce5c366
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