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Marques => Pilgrim => Topic started by: gaxor on Apr 14, 2024, 11:07 AM

Title: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: gaxor on Apr 14, 2024, 11:07 AM
Does anyone know the nut size for the lower ball joint (not the 4 mounting bolts)
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: KevinW on Apr 14, 2024, 09:16 PM
Quote from: gaxor on Apr 14, 2024, 11:07 AMDoes anyone know the nut size for the lower ball joint (not the 4 mounting bolts)

You need to specify what make and model.
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: gaxor on Apr 15, 2024, 11:25 AM
Its a Pilgrim Sumo, Pilgrim themselves do not distinguish which Mk, they just list a lower Ball Joint
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: Chris on Apr 15, 2024, 04:51 PM
Quote from: gaxor on Apr 15, 2024, 11:25 AMIts a Pilgrim Sumo, Pilgrim themselves do not distinguish which Mk, they just list a lower Ball Joint
Early Pilgrims used Cortina parts and the later ones were based on Sierra components, mate of mine
built a late 90's version that was mainly Sierra parts .
If that's in your ball park you will find the torque settings in something like a Hains manual although nut
sizes won't be listed .
You will probably find these in a proper workshop manual or someone with a good memory on these
parts, sorry my memory doesn't serve me well enough !
They also did use Granada parts on later models .
Hopefully this info will give you some guidance?
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: gaxor on Apr 16, 2024, 04:44 PM
Quote from: Chris on Apr 15, 2024, 04:51 PMEarly Pilgrims used Cortina parts and the later ones were based on Sierra components, mate of mine
built a late 90's version that was mainly Sierra parts .
If that's in your ball park you will find the torque settings in something like a Hains manual although nut
sizes won't be listed .
You will probably find these in a proper workshop manual or someone with a good memory on these
parts, sorry my memory doesn't serve me well enough !
They also did use Granada parts on later models .
Hopefully this info will give you some guidance?

Unfortunately not, Sierra's and Cortinas use Mcferson Strut front suspension. Cobra replicas use coil overs with wishbones
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: JON1D on Apr 16, 2024, 05:27 PM
This is they part https://www.pilgrim-motorsports.co.uk/product/lower-ball-joint/

FRONT LOWER BALL JOINT LH\RH FORD CORTINA MK3\MK4\MK5 QSJ663S

https://www.burtonpower.com/front-lower-ball-joint-lh-rh-ford-cortina-mk3-mk4-mk5-qsj663s.html

They used QUINTON HAZELL part no  QSJ663S

Thread Size, M14x1.5 . If you have the original nut I would measure with a Vernier if the nut is full height or half height M14 X 1.5 nut. You need steel grade 8 plus. All replacement ball joints come with a nut. 
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: Chris on Apr 16, 2024, 06:57 PM
Quote from: gaxor on Apr 16, 2024, 04:44 PMUnfortunately not, Sierra's and Cortinas use Mcferson Strut front suspension. Cobra replicas use coil overs with wishbones
I don't know of any Cobras that would use strut front suspension but would add that Jon has given you
some good information to work with with regards to the parts that you require .
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: KevinW on Apr 16, 2024, 07:40 PM
Quote from: Chris on Apr 16, 2024, 06:57 PMI don't know of any Cobras that would use strut front suspension but would add that Jon has given you
some good information to work with with regards to the parts that you require .
Mk1 and MkII Sumos used the McPhearson strut I believe.

OP: If you post some pics of your set-up then there are people on here who will be able to respond.
Please also show side view of car, cockpit and engine bay - that helps determine exact variant being discussed.
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: gaxor on Apr 17, 2024, 04:23 PM
Thanks to Jon1D That answers my question. Apologies to eveyone else I hadn't realised that MK3 Cortinas onwards had double wishbone
Title: Re: Front Lower Ball Joint
Post by: Dgosumo on Apr 18, 2024, 06:13 PM
Sorry for being late to this thread. As stated previously the MK3/4/5 Cortina/MK1 Granada has double wishbone suspension. The ball joints (like this: Link (https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/first-line-ball-joint-lower-l-r-part-no-fbj5025?variant=37798369853593&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOooUDJVx0yhJCCQEOAnYvOwULNyVxn0IMn80ooKdPuQWouQYMvp4ZXw)) come with the necessary bolts. If yours have never been replaced they'll be riveted in, you'll have to drill/cut them out.

Worth replacing the rubber bush too while you have the arm off.