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Technical => Maintenance and Servicing => Topic started by: Dek on Oct 08, 2023, 04:25 PM

Title: Fuel treatment.
Post by: Dek on Oct 08, 2023, 04:25 PM
Guys I'm trying to evaluate some options. We know E10 isn't kind to rubber carb seals etc. So the options are use E5 if you can get it and bloody expensive £1-89 at my local garage some weeks ago so probably gone up since. Or use a fuel additive. I recently bought 475ml Lucas Ethanol Safeguard which treats up to 300L for about a tenner. So is there a difference in the two approaches and if so which is better? E10 + fuel additive is certainly cheaper.

Linked to this is a story I'll tell from when I was at Pistons and Props recently. There was this chap on a stall selling a fuel treatment. We got into conversation and he said he'd spent years researching this and come up with the solution-Antimony particles added to the tank giving protection for at least 3 years. We talked about the effect of modern fuel on rubber seals and he said it was due to bacterial action which the Antimony prevented. Now I've had a bit of bacteriology training in a past life and I found it hard to believe that any bacteria could survive in a harsh fuel environment. Anyway I politely made my excuses to leave asking for his card whilst I looked into it further whereupon he accused me of being a time waster despite wasting 10 minutes of my time! I told him where he could put his fuel treatment. Anyone know how Antimony reacts in the rectum?  ;D
Dek
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: Chris on Oct 08, 2023, 05:45 PM
I've heard about bacteria growth in diesel but not petrol if that's any help ?
I use the castrol valve master + in my little Buic v8 along with e5 Esso and all is good .
Before all all of this bio fuel b.s, I used just the normal grade fuel along with the Castrol and that was also good.
Now I use just the e0 / e5 Esso in conjunction with the additive and all is good, only it is now costing the equivalent of about nine pounds a gallon !
I suppose you can't take it with you .
Chris.
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: richard8166 on Oct 09, 2023, 10:15 AM
Bacteria (and yeast and fungal) growth in diesel is a big deal.  There are loads of treatments for it, and it is much worse with bio-diesel.
I've never come across petrol contamination like this, and it seems to me that higher ethanol content would inhibit growth of these organisms rather than promote it.
Your suggestion of where to use his treatment made me laugh this morning.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: JON1D on Oct 09, 2023, 01:02 PM
I always if I can use E5. I use an app to locate the prices and always found Sailburys the best. I do use Esso 99 as higher octane on occasional top ups. I have replaced all my fuel lines with new rubber as E10 eats the internals of the tube also good practice as fuel rubbers crack and harden with age. If you have an American carb they have been using ethanol fuel for a long time so it might be good with E10. 

This is the app

https://www.petrolprices.com/download-the-app/

You can select super unleaded and it shows prices which might be out by a day or two.

For fuel storage over winter. The less air space in your tank the better and I add Bilthamber Gas Mac

https://bilthamber.com/product/gas-mac/

A fuel additive for both petrol and diesel engines to protect the internal surfaces of fuel tanks both above and below the fuel level from corrosion. Burns harmlessly in all internal combustion engines. Based on powerful migrating corrosion inhibitors. Helps to stabilise fuel in long term storage.
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: aaronjb on Oct 09, 2023, 05:14 PM
Have you got his card, Dek?

I've got some rare earth magnets he can attach to his fuel lines.. 99mpg in any car! Miracle solution big fuel doesn't want you to know about! Just £1000 to him, pay back in no time ;)
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: Dek on Oct 10, 2023, 08:04 AM
Quote from: aaronjb on Oct 09, 2023, 05:14 PMHave you got his card, Dek?

I've got some rare earth magnets he can attach to his fuel lines.. 99mpg in any car! Miracle solution big fuel doesn't want you to know about! Just £1000 to him, pay back in no time ;)

No I left when he got abusive Aaron. Probably didn't have any in case people tracked him down asking for their money back!
I'll have one of your "miracle magnets" though  ;)
Dek
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: Ken on Jan 31, 2024, 02:33 PM
Quote from: aaronjb on Oct 09, 2023, 05:14 PMHave you got his card, Dek?

I've got some rare earth magnets he can attach to his fuel lines.. 99mpg in any car! Miracle solution big fuel doesn't want you to know about! Just £1000 to him, pay back in no time ;)
BUT you have to have the Antimony in Rectum for this to work.
Its the electric co-phase between the Rectum seated Antimony and the little magnets that ensure 99MPG
Now the MPG and Top speed can be controlled by how far up the anal canal the antimony is inserted. Deeper means faster.
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: CobraPaul on Jan 31, 2024, 06:46 PM
I know super unleaded is expensive, but I've always used vPower in most of my performance engines.
I intend to do the same with my Cobra and Chevy v8 tbh. And sticking to the same type of fuel consistently should mean a better chance for a consistent engine performance.
Title: Re: Fuel treatment.
Post by: Graham Heatrick on Jan 31, 2024, 10:17 PM
Ha! I remember that Dek, all smoke and mirrors in my view.